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[00:01.56]SECTION B CONVERSATIONS
[00:04.86]In this section you will hear two conversations.
[00:08.88]At the end of each conversation,
[00:11.22]five questions will be asked about what was said.
[00:15.38]Both the conversation and the questions will be spoken once only.
[00:21.37]After each question there will be a ten-second pause.
[00:26.04]During the pause, you should read the four choices of A, B, C and D,
[00:33.46]and mark the best answer to each question on Answer Sheet Two.
[00:39.51]You have 30 seconds to preview the questions.
[01:13.12]Now, listen to the conversations.
[01:16.85]CONVERSATION ONE
[01:19.46]Questions 1 to 5 are based on Conversation One.
[01:23.90]W: Welcome to today's program.
[01:26.52]Today we have the CEO of Google. Glad to see you here, Larry.
[01:32.01]M: Me too, thanks for having me.
[01:34.87]W: You have mentioned employees before, and their rights.
[01:38.20]What is your stance on robot rights?
[01:41.72]M: This is a complex issue,
[01:44.17]and one that hasn't really been solved during the last decade.
[01:48.39]We apply the Marissa Test
[01:50.69]named after our Ex-User Experience Vice President.
[01:54.41]Our experts will tell the machine a really very sad story
[01:59.57]and if the machine starts to cry,
[02:01.99]we will give it "human" rights like payments, off-days and so on.
[02:07.50]By the way, they don't like to be called robots.
[02:11.38]W: Really? Why not?
[02:14.14]M: They like to be called robotic persons, that's all.
[02:19.05]Some of these machines can be quite sensitive.
[02:21.96]It's part of our philosophy to support this.
[02:25.12]W: Has the robotic strike two years ago
[02:27.73]hit your company as hard as others?
[02:30.74]M: Maybe. Maybe even harder.
[02:33.45]We have the biggest robotic personnel in the USA.
[02:37.30]Only the Chinese beat us at that,
[02:39.81]but then again, they beat us mostly at anything these days.
[02:43.46]As opposed to a human strike,
[02:46.21]a robotic personnel strike is really more like,
[02:49.52]"Hey, they're actually off."
[02:51.67]You can't even talk to them, discuss things.
[02:55.24]We do believe in minimum wage for RPs, we really do.
[02:59.55]W: By the way,
[03:00.88]were you surprised at Marissa's running for President?
[03:04.55]M: She's an incredibly bright and talented woman.
[03:07.93]We wish her all the best, from all of us.
[03:10.89]W: One question people ask over and over during the last 30 years.
[03:15.90]Is it really important that you still have a focus on the search?
[03:20.65]So many companies have come up with
[03:22.41]different ideas and different technologies.
[03:25.91]M: The more knowledge we collect,
[03:27.71]the more important it becomes, actually.
[03:30.47]It's simply the only means of navigating such a huge body of data.
[03:35.68]We've played around with many concepts during the last years,
[03:39.89]most importantly the personal information agent.
[03:43.75]That was our single most successful product after search.
[03:48.11]W: I found it fascinating these days,
[03:50.68]you can have conversations with the Google search box
[03:54.18]like it would be your best friend.
[03:56.63]M: Exactly.
[03:57.75]This was the stuff we wanted to have there from beginning.
[04:01.81]Some of us thought it would take us 300 years,
[04:05.12]but they didn't include robotic personnel
[04:08.02]working for us into the calculation.
[04:10.78]This changes the whole game.
[04:13.48]W: Some said that when you gave away robots for free,
[04:17.65]you were destroying the robots industry at large.
[04:21.46]M: We really don't think so.
[04:23.52]I mean we only want to serve our users. That's our goal.
[04:28.51]Questions 1 to 5 are based on Conversation One.
[04:33.57]1. What does Larry think about robot rights?
[04:48.41]2. What can we learn from the conversation about robots?
[05:04.00]3. What did Larry say about Google's focus on search?
[05:19.68]4. What can we learn from the conversation
[05:23.87]about the Google search box?
[05:35.91]5. What did Larry think of giving away robots for free?
[05:51.30]This is the end of Conversation One.
[05:54.91]CONVERSATION TWO
[05:57.37]Questions 6 to 10 are based on Conversation Two.
[06:01.73]W: With all your experience of interviewing,
[06:04.44]Michael, how can you tell
[06:06.49]if somebody is going to make a good interviewer?
[06:09.90]M: Oh, I say, what a question! I've never been asked that before.
[06:15.11]I think that the prerequisite obviously is curiosity.
[06:19.37]The people who have done my job
[06:21.32]failed to have been good interviewers
[06:23.38]because basically they've not been journalists.
[06:26.73]Um, my training was in journalism.
[06:29.84]I've been 26 years a journalist
[06:32.70]and to be a journalist means that you like meeting people,
[06:36.41]and also you want to find out about them.
[06:39.42]So that's the prerequisite.
[06:41.48]After that, I think there's something else that comes into it, into play,
[06:45.95]and I think, again, most successful journalists have it---
[06:50.41]it's a kind of affinity with people, it's an ability to get on with people.
[06:55.38]W: When you've done an interview yourself,
[06:58.14]how do you feel whether it's been a good interview
[07:01.15]or not a good interview?
[07:03.61]M: I can never really tell on air.
[07:05.82]I have to watch it back,
[07:07.48]because television depends so much
[07:08.92]on your director getting the right shot, the right reaction.
[07:13.38]W: How do you bring out the best in people,
[07:16.24]because you always seem to manage to,
[07:18.79]not only relax them,
[07:20.34]but somehow get right into the depths of them.
[07:24.06]M: By research, by knowing,
[07:26.26]when you go into a television studio,
[07:28.17]more about the guests in front of you
[07:30.23]than they've forgotten about themselves.
[07:32.80]And, I mean that's pure research.
[07:35.76]I mean, you probably use… in a 20-minute interview,
[07:39.47]I probably use a 20th of the research material that I've absorbed,
[07:44.34]but that's what you're gonna have to do.
[07:46.67]If anybody ever tries to tell you that as an interviewer just starting,
[07:51.19]that you wing it, there's no such thing.
[07:54.25]It's all preparation.
[07:56.86]W: And does that include sticking to written questions?
[08:00.42]M: No, I mean what you do is you have an aide memoir.
[08:04.84]I have, my… my list of questions aren't questions as such,
[08:09.90]they're areas that I block out.
[08:12.81]W: Have you got a last word of encouragement
[08:15.16]for any young people setting out on
[08:17.62]what they'd like to be in a career as an interviewer?
[08:21.23]M: I envy them, I mean, I really do.
[08:23.91]I mean I'd go back and do it all again.
[08:27.23]I think it's the most perfect job for any young person
[08:31.00]who's got talent and ambition and energy.
[08:34.12]And the nice thing about it is
[08:36.03]that the proportion of talent is only five percent;
[08:40.09]the other 95 percent is energy and no examinations to pass.
[08:45.71]I'd love to do it over again.
[08:48.51]Questions 6 to 10 are based on Conversation Two.
[08:53.32]6. According to the man, what makes a good interviewer?
[09:09.31]7. How does the man feel
[09:12.57]whether an interview done by him is good or not?
[09:26.17]8. How does the man bring out the best in the interviewees?
[09:41.51]9. What questions are on the man's list?
[09:56.08]10. According to the man,
[09:59.89]what is the nice thing about being an interviewer?
[10:13.13]This is the end of Conversation Two.
[10:15.33]
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